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Running through the Decades Series 1 of 4: The Early Days of Modern Running Boom 50s and 60s
Runners, take your mark! Prepare to embark on a captivating journey tracing the evolution of running from ancient Greece to modern-day Olympics.
We promise a fascinating discussion about the epic history of running, filled with awe-inspiring tales of record-breaking athletes like Spiridon Lewis who touched the finish line sans modern running gear.
Brace to unravel the intriguing origin story of the Marathon, once a male-only event, and the persisting patriarchy that shadows the running world today.
Get ready for an engaging exploration of the 1950s and 60s, a golden era marked by extraordinary breakthroughs in running. From Emil Zapotec's distinctive style and commitment to Abebe Bikila's historic barefoot marathon win at the 1960 Rome Olympics and Jim Ryan shattering world records in 1966, we cover the 1950s and 1960s lates and greats of running.
And we couldn't overlook the phenomenal Catherine Switzer, the first woman to officially run the Boston Marathon in 1967.
Discover a wealth of insights into running stats, fueling, and hydration strategies of this period and how pop culture continues to shape the running world.
But this episode isn't only about running. Culinary enthusiasts, listen up!
We take an appetizing detour to find out what folks were eating in those decades even embracing Julia Childs' iconic "What the Hell" attitude and timeless recipes.
We'll whisk you through snacks, popular sayings, hobbies, and the tunes you want to be grooving to when you join in on this epic 1950 & 1960s run.
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Hey friends, coach Shelby and Coach Christine, we're excited to have you join us for Time for Brunch Quick Fights Edition, where you can grab your movement with a side of smiles and take them on the run, midday in the afternoon or even a late night snack attack. Obviously, if you're listening to us, you already know by the title, by our bio, we love running, so clearly we aren't surprised. The sport is seeing yet another boom of folks joining in, records being broken nearly every day and all of the good movement fun that comes with all that. So, from the fastest times to record breaking registrations for events, how do we get through it all? How did we get here? Well, we know how we got kinda here. We laced up and, you know, went one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 1:But just like you, we wanna know how did the sport get started and how did it become so popular like it is now? So we decided what better way to educate ourselves as well as others, and do a Quick Fights series all about running through the decades? Coach Christine, you know I love a lot of the different decades, the fashion, the movement, the food, the music, I mean. Which is your favorite decade? Oh, probably, I'm gonna say the 70s.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, okay, well, that's not gonna be on this episode, my friend, but stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Well, let's get right to it, because before we get into the running boom of modern running, the one that we're currently undergoing here and I am so excited every single time I see somebody on a Facebook group page complain about how hard it is to get a race registration I think, gosh, this is amazing.
Speaker 2:This has become such an incredibly popular way of moving your body that we are seeing these record like these record breaking numbers of registration. I also think it's incredible, like, how are we getting so fast? So I think it's super exciting, but let's take a little bit of a time travel trip, if you will, and get into some of the aspects of how did we even get into running being the sport that we know and love as it is today? So we're gonna take it a little bit back to BC, but not just BC before COVID, but BCE before common era times where running came to be. But, of course, it's always been a form of movement and if you listen to our podcast episode with the wonderful, great Jeff Galloway, he talks a little bit about how, of course, humans evolved in terms of hunting down their food specifically, but it actually became a sport in 776 BCE, in ancient Greece, in the town of Olympia, which is cool.
Speaker 1:It sounds a little bit like Olympia without like being like oh, it sounds a little familiar because Olympia Olympics running kind of goes hand in hand. And who has not heard how the actual marathon was started?
Speaker 2:So let's let's get into that. I guarantee there's somebody who hasn't maybe heard about it.
Speaker 1:Spoiler alert. It's a little bit of a downer. I'm just just throwing it out there.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a little bit of debate as to how much of it may be true and how much of it may be lore that's been passed along, and then some of it also. We've now kind of come to play that it may not have been specifically the marathon distance that this specific legend really is talking about, but maybe ultra marathons. But we're just gonna stick to the, to what we know and what we've come to love, right. So about 490 BCE, a Greek soldier by the name of the Dippides have been practicing that. I've got to say I'm like, how many takes did that take? Yeah, I've been trying to see all morning long.
Speaker 2:So he was commissioned to leave town in haste and he made his way towards Athens. He was supposed to deliver news of victory over Persia, but the town he deported was called Marathon and Athens was approximately 25 miles away. For us folks that are just getting new to the sport, welcome Marathons are usually 26.2. So anyway, the legend has it that he ran all the way there in one fell swoop all 25 miles. Deliver his message, said there is great victory and boom, dropped dead right on the spot.
Speaker 2:I told you I was downer. So the marathon was born and of course it got changed in terms of its 26 miles, a little bit later on in history. We're not going to tackle all of that right here and now, but what we are going to tackle is a little bit. We're going to fast forward, we're going to leave BC, we're going to go back into AD 1896, the advent of the modern Olympics, harkening back to that Olympia that was, of course, conceived by the Greeks. We had the conception of the modern marathon due to a man named Michael Burial, a French foot] philogist, who was adamant about its inclusion in the Olympics, and it was, of course, a male only event at that time. I love it. I'm so glad, girl. I'm going to be honest. The entire purpose of this entire series is just so I can hear you, boo.
Speaker 1:There's going to be a lot of it Again. Spoiler alert it's important to know our history, but it's also just smash the patriarchy a little bit.
Speaker 2:Friends, if you don't know what I'm talking about, you want to go reference our World Marathon major series. There was quite a bit of booing there as well, not about the events themselves, but maybe the fact that it wasn't always so female friendly. But at that time it was a male only event, and the first winner of the first marathon was a Greek water carrier named Spiridon Lewis, and he did it in two hours 58 minutes and 50 seconds.
Speaker 1:That was the very first record I'm going to be on Elliot Kachogi. I'm just saying I mean girl.
Speaker 2:He was probably running in sandals, like who knows what he was wearing. Listen, barefoot running is totally a thing. We'll talk about that here because it is part of the history of how we got here which is always so exciting. 1897, the Boston Marathon was born Again. Check out that World Marathon major series. We're not going to spend too much time here, but it is the oldest marathon here in the United States of America. 1909 kind of marked the beginning of what we will learn more about Marathon A mania. How cool is that? Can we like just go to a race series and call it Marathon mania?
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm pretty sure it probably exists, but I do have to laugh at the time we're recording this to. The Boston Marathon still has not announced their cutoff cushion that is going to be needed. I wonder if, by the time this airs, they will have they will.
Speaker 2:They will have, and that's actually a part of what sparked this as well, because we are quite literally seeing this sport change. We are seeing that the capabilities of what we thought was, or the limitations that we thought were possible, are just being shattered from gender, age, all of it. So, again, record number of entries into time qualified with really good buffers, and they're still kind of hanging by a thread. So we're sending you guys a whole lot of love and hopefully a lot of good news came your way.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the coach, we're going to make it into not quite your favorite decade quite yet, but we're going to make it into the fifties and this is where we're going to like start honing in a little bit more about how we got to where we are today. So the key events to take away from the fifties it's still kind of an infancy. Maybe we didn't see every single one of our neighbors lacing up at this point, but Roger Benester hit the first sub four minute mile in 1954 at the Ify Road Track in Oxford, england. I think it is also a really important distinction to say we're probably not going to spend a lot of time throughout this running through the decades on all of the different lengths of different ways, like from track and we're going to probably focus more specifically on the marathon just to highlight how much faster folks have gotten, because if we start talking about sub miles and we start talking about 10k's, it's just too much data.
Speaker 1:I had to start spending. Right, I was like this we talked about how the marathon got started. We're not going to let his death be in vain. We're going to go ahead and give a little extra glory to that distance.
Speaker 2:To fiddippities. I'm saying it again because I practice it Because you were excited, so tell me more about the AAU, because we know and love them to this day and they definitely do help in advancing a lot of policies.
Speaker 1:So while they were not founded in the 1950s, they were established in 1888 and it's a non-profit organization here in the US that serves as a multi-sport organization, promotes amateur sports athletics and primarily for young adults, but also for full-fledged adults because hashtag adulting and it's all about supporting and developing the athletes and sports programs at different levels. So definitely a good cause, definitely a good shout out. So I mean I could probably rock an AAU little skirt to homage to the 50s?
Speaker 2:I think so, and now I'm scared because I feel like you're going to Disney bound for the next upcoming race series, with a little bit of maybe running through the decades. Let's talk about that afterwards, but we've got to pinpoint that idea.
Speaker 1:Yes, With.
Speaker 2:another great key event or key figure during that time was Emil Zapotec. Now, when I think of great historical figures and running, this individual has my heart. Just based off of. One of his most amazing quotes was that victory is great, but friendship is greater. Oh girl, a lot of work's a little bit there. It's so powerful. Good points. He was so well known as being a little bit different than most other folks because he kind of had an unusual running style and he had a really unusual competition style. He really did want to see folks kind of embrace their best versions of themselves. So there's a lot of great stories about him in his running career. We're not going to get into all of them because his life is just spectacular. There's too much to really point out.
Speaker 1:I do love one point, but he runs with a grimace. He does, and I'm pretty sure his coach did not tell him to check his face. Maybe that's just a you and me thing that we tell our athletes during the runs Check your face, keep your arms in, because he went against the grain in the ball of that.
Speaker 2:He talks about that. He says I wasn't talented enough to run and smile at the same time.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, we can't get all the gifts, we can't look good and run fast, I suppose.
Speaker 2:I mean seriously. So what's your friend Disney? Or your, your our common day modern day goat? For sure, but for the rest of us, mere mortals, we have to focus on one activity or the other. So we get it, we get it. But with that said, he is phenomenal. He set a ton of world records during that time and I think you'll hear a lot of folks that maybe either saw him compete or got the privilege of running with him. They all really talk about how he was so dedicated, his incredible work ethic. I mean he defines like the Hamilton song, young, scrappy and hungry. That was him, but with a little side of gentle giant, if we will.
Speaker 1:I like that description. Bravo, bravo, coach, thank you, thank you. Now now what I really want to know, because we're coaches at heart what were the stats like back then?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's get into that. So you were already unimpressed by the very first marathon finish time.
Speaker 1:You said again he died like. I mean, it's not exactly a feel good story.
Speaker 2:We now know.
Speaker 2:We now know, though, that of course the deputies that there may have been a bit more miles behind at 25, but that's neither here nor there, and probably not great fueling or hydration tactics either. But in the fifties. Okay, friends, we're going to say it right here and now. We can't 100% say this title holder or that title holder, because the data is a little bit murky. If we will, because we didn't see the affinity for running as we do currently.
Speaker 2:So we're just going to give you some general, and the general is that most elite athletes, kind of like Zapotec around that time, would finish their marathons near from two hours and 30 minutes to just under three hours, and of course those were at the highest level. And then the recreational runners the me use, the extraordinary runners of the world, and of course they were doing more about four hours or even longer. So, again, I think these are both really respectable times, but we will hear how that's changed over the decades as well. It's brunch time, girl, so let's talk about fueling and hydration. What were they doing back then?
Speaker 1:Apparently not great folks. Not great. They obviously did not have goose and martin gels and scratch labs and all of the different fuels that we've tested on our YouTube channel. They were kind of like the wild wild West, if you will. They did not really give AF.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think that they really cared quite so much. If they had to, they probably were just adding in a little bit of diluted fruit juice, eating their regular carbs, but I don't think they were even thinking of it as like, oh, I'm going to carb load or I'm going to do anything like that, which is probably because they got hungry and they ate, like they literally were just getting out there for their runs.
Speaker 1:I do have to out you, though, in our show notes that we use to keep our minds in track. She literally wrote they just force, gumpt it, they did.
Speaker 2:I think you've ever put in our outline.
Speaker 1:They did.
Speaker 2:And some of the books that I've read about the early days of running. They talked about how different it was and like the excessive miles and how they didn't fuel and it really was the well, well West and a lot of forest dumping going on. But with that said, talk about forest dumping and one of the greatest movies ever. We're going to talk a little bit about pulp culture, because it wouldn't be brunch if we didn't do that. So hit me with that music, my friend.
Speaker 1:Wait, pause, roll back a bit. Let's rewind and do a little jog backwards. You like forest gum?
Speaker 2:How can you not like forest gum?
Speaker 1:I mean, I like forest gum, but I wouldn't call it one of the best movies of all time.
Speaker 2:It was one of the best movies of all time. We will absolutely not guarantee. I'm adding in right now into our notes that we need to add a poll and I will come out as reigning supreme, with more people on my side than yours. I said he was. It was phenomenal. The book was ridiculous. It's one of the few times that I can say the movie was better than the book.
Speaker 1:Well, and did you even realize that the story actually began in the 1950s? So you're really on brand with, like our era. She's like she's nodding of how proud she was.
Speaker 2:I almost started to add a little bit and I was like no, that's too much, I'm just going to pull that back. But anyway, you on the back for that. But friends, you'll have to let us know what you think. I know you're going to agree with me, and forest gum is definitely one of the best movies of all time.
Speaker 1:But you know popular music again, as we saw in forest gum, the ever amazing Elvis Presley was huge, don't Be Cruel. And Hound Dog came out in the 1950s. I believe Hound Dog was 1956.
Speaker 2:I mean, there were some incredible songs that came out of that, with those poodle skirts that you're going to be rocking at Run Disney. But Elvis Presley was definitely at the top of the list. I mean, he was racking up those top 10s and we kind of saw the advent of that craze, that rock and roll craze, which we're going to talk a little bit about as well here, because some of the popular hobbies at that time was rock and roll dancing. What does that look like? Thrusting a?
Speaker 1:little bit of those pre-running stretches, that little post-running mobility maybe.
Speaker 2:So are you saying that the hip thrusting has turned into twerking, because it's come a long way?
Speaker 1:I mean, if you don't twerk after your run, did you even really run? But you also have some classics like Dean Martin, so it was okay. We had a little bit of different vibes all the way around, and Doris Day, Doris Day was that too, Doris Day, is amazing, for sure.
Speaker 2:So while people may have been grooving into some of those tunes, or they were also getting in some rock and roll dancing or maybe some classic dancing still one of my favorites on here though popular hobbies is an homage to Coach Shelby, where bowling was at its heyday.
Speaker 1:Heck yeah with me and the sock hops we were getting down. You can tell I was not born in the 50s.
Speaker 2:We're gonna talk a little bit about that as well, my friends. But TV watching was super popular Drive-ins, of course. I think drive-ins are so cool. They give me a hit of nostalgia.
Speaker 1:I don't know why we don't have more drive-in movies. There's like one or two theaters, I think, like two hours away from me yeah. But I could get in with some drive-ins again, especially after a long run day. I don't wanna actually have to leave my car to walk and go do things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could as well. I don't know why they're not quite so popular. So if you guys know the answer, let us know. But a couple of what was popular sayings and phrases was Coach Shelby would be officially considered a Bobby Soxer, which is a teenage girl You're not teenage, but we're gonna pretend you are who is a fan of popular singers and often characterized by wearing Bobby Sox and swooning over her music idols while she was wearing that amazing football skirt. So I coach her Bobby Sox, bobby Sox. I don't even know.
Speaker 1:I don't know, there's something foxy and soxy. I don't know, I am soxy, no, but I mean I would take that it sounds like an insult, but I like everything that it is. And, for the record though, I do not swoon over music idols. I've met quite a few famous singers and I did not make a fool of myself Now all the runners that we've had the elite runners on our podcast, that I made myself a dancer, okay so maybe we need to bring this term back and kind of refresh it for the running world where it's a I don't know middle-aged gal who swoones over her.
Speaker 2:You're not middle-aged yet, but I am, I don't know. We'll have to figure that one out. But Cruisin was a popular saying, and thing to do is the act of driving around aimlessly or with friends, often in search of social interaction or entertainment. I still do that to this day. Oh I love Cruisin.
Speaker 1:You put a cooler with some sparkle water, some snacks, in the back of the car and you just kind of cruise around. It's like people watching, but on the go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with AC, which is really important for us down here in Florida.
Speaker 1:Right, but I'm gonna cruise on over to the sock hop because I love my dancing.
Speaker 2:We all know that Because you're a Bobby Soxer, I am a.
Speaker 1:Bobby Soxer. And while it was usually at the school gymnasium, I mean, they removed their shoes, which sounds a little germaphobe for me, but they still had socks on, so it was okay and they didn't pop, lock and drop it, but they definitely did that little hip thrive, little jive A little bit of twist and action, some core action going on, because a hand jive too. All a grease. Oh really, I believe. So as I'm doing the hand jive, like amazingly, like I actually know that.
Speaker 2:I have no idea, my friend, I don't, but we're gonna. If anyone again wants to correct us, we're here for it, so just bear with us on it.
Speaker 1:We're doing our very best. Rydell High class of 59 right there, ok see we got our facts, we do.
Speaker 2:One of my favorites is, of course, a little daddy-o action, a term used to refer to a guy or a friend. It was often associated with the beatnik and jazz subcultures of the era, which I think that's where you would have found me during that time frame. But let's get into some yummy snacks, coach. What would I have been able to snack on? Clearly not before or after a run, because who cares about that?
Speaker 1:But what would I have been able to snack on? Well, I mean, twizzlers were a thing, so not a bad on the run fuel option, and also Pez, which I mean Pez could be good Eggo Waffles, star-kiss, tuna Tricks and Cocoa Puffs and, of course, Ramen noodles and Cognac ice cream.
Speaker 2:How amazing. I didn't know the MSG came from the 50s.
Speaker 1:I love it. I mean, that's how everything from the 50s survived, right OK?
Speaker 2:well, we know. So this is basically our post-apocalyptic snack door too. It'll still be from the 50s, so we're not going to 100% leave the 50s, we're just going to move right into some of that grieving 60s action. So we're going to cruise in. Yeah, thank you for that. How about you hit me with some of those key events that kind of made headlines for the running world?
Speaker 1:Well, we touched about it a little bit, but in the 60s a Bebe Vakila, it became the historic barefoot marathon win in the 1960 Rome Olympics. So I know we have quite a few of our brunch crew that does embrace barefoot running, whether fully barefoot or using that barefoot shoe. I know Tara, who was on our show, uses those shoes and he was an Ethiopian long distance runner who gained his immense prominence and historical significance because of barefoot running and obviously I mean he was a good runner to boot, ha, to boot, no shoes.
Speaker 2:That was a pun that I didn't even mean we will allow it, and not only that, we'll give you kudos for it. That was phenomenal. You're just your punny and you don't even know it.
Speaker 1:And if you think that we get weird looks as barefoot runners now, imagine how unconventional it was at the time. Partly it was influenced by shoes not exactly being comfortable for Vakila's. But he also adapted the situation and just went on to win the race because he wanted to show that endurance, that determination, and he also had set world record a little bit later on in that Olympics as well.
Speaker 2:I feel like I wish I had that little, that cool, like little foghorn noise like whoop, whoop, but two hours two hours 15 minutes and 16 seconds.
Speaker 2:That is quite literally incredible. One from the 50s, that's a 15 minute gain by the time. That's incredible, seriously. So we also saw a world record in the mile with Jim Ryan who set that in July 17th of 66. He ran in three minutes and 51.1 seconds. I love how, when we get into those, that still would be considered a longer distance for track and field, but still when we get into those distances, they start to really count, like the micro millisecond aspect of things, which is wild. But of course it was a remarkable achievement at that time. But we could not have an episode about the 60s I'm impossible without talking about the one and only the very great Catherine Switzer.
Speaker 1:I mean seriously, and again, you can check out the Quick Bites we did about the Boston Marathon, and we share a lot of the tidbits, but famously, catherine Switzer made history as the first woman to officially run the Boston Marathon in 1967. She has written books, she has given talks. It is a story that definitely has been told throughout the ages, and Catherine's done a great job to also make sure that it wasn't sensationalized, and she set a lot of wrongs right and making sure that the correct history was told. So she definitely, though, first and foremost, helped pave the way for women's participation in running and in sports and not jumping decades, but it still took into the 70s for the Boston Marathon to officially allow female runners. But I will say that this was one of those steps that you can't glaze over in running history, not only for female runners, but runners in general.
Speaker 2:Absolutely and I will 100% say friends, if you are new to running or you haven't seen the photo that was publicized about her being, where the race director forcibly attempted to remove her from the course and her male teammates protecting her, it is just a little like AD and Goosebumps. It is the most incredible photo. It's emblazoned in my memory or, as the young kids say, it lives rent-free in my memory.
Speaker 1:And it's such an incredible powerful. I don't know if they still say that anymore.
Speaker 2:Daddy-O, let's bring back the 50s saying so we could finally just start a trend.
Speaker 2:Or kept with a jive. I think you have found your home, my friend. With that said, we'll hear more about Catherine Sootsore as we continue and a lot of these names will kind of repeat because they really are 100% incredible in where we're at today with modern running. But let's talk about fueling and hydration. It wasn't a little as wild westy because we started to see a little bit of actually fueling for the sport. It started to kind of like there were rumors of like hey, you're not going to bonk or hit the wall if you actually eat food. So there's a little bit of carbohydrate loading, there's a little bit of the isotonic sport drink starting to emerge as a hydration option and basically that's where you have a bit more of those electrolytes, a bit of that sodium or all the things that we deplete.
Speaker 1:Again, they didn't even think women could run, let alone run a marathon. So I'm pretty sure again we are not going to be seeing them thinking that eating would actually help performance. But it seems like again, the 60s were a little transformative. They're starting to think with their brains and use a little science behind it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we'll see the average finishing times for marathons Again. We already heard about the elite times kind of already breaking that barrier quite a bit just a decade later, but when it comes to the average finishing times for the weekend warriors or the folks that just fell madly in love with this entire incredible sport, it was pretty similar to the 50s. Nothing really to report. We start to see women, of course, with Catherine Switzer actually participating in this, but still not enough. Women were legally allowed to finish where we have any true records to get average finishing times. Let's get into the pop culture coach.
Speaker 1:Please don't tell me you've lost that love and feeling.
Speaker 2:I mean, I would never lose that loving feeling ever. It's like how could we not for you, not for brunch, not for running?
Speaker 1:It's like absolutely very important, but also a top chart hit by the righteous brothers, which, if that title sounds familiar, you probably know the song more than you know the artist. But I mean Top Gun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was gonna say Top Gun made it fade.
Speaker 1:She's like malving it. To me it's like, yes, I am the queen, I can't in Top Gun, which again we are a you already threw out a little bit of a controversial with Forrest Gump I'm going to go on to say I don't love Top Gun. I know I'm sorry. I love the second one. I know we're right that we're going to.
Speaker 2:I'm now concerned that we're going to lose that loving feeling. Ok, the second one was phenomenal. I will give you that I think the first one and the second one are both genius. I also feel that way about Terminator One and Terminator Two. I've never seen him. Ok, Shelby.
Speaker 1:I am crushing her hopes and dreams. I mean, it's not that I don't watch movies.
Speaker 2:We just haven't watched the same movies.
Speaker 1:It sounds like look, I'm a believer that we can get through this, because the monkeys yeah.
Speaker 2:I can agree.
Speaker 1:The monkeys were a great fan and I'm a believer my generation probably was introduced to that first by Shrek in the early 2000s, but before, before they were made famous by Shrek, they were pretty famous on their own right and let's let's talk about some music. The 60s was a great time for music.
Speaker 2:I agree, Paul.
Speaker 1:Anka, you had gosh, I mean. Now I'm actually wondering, though was Frankie Valley in the four seasons? Was that the 50s or the 60s?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's it. I think maybe a little crossover of both.
Speaker 1:I think it was a little bit of both, but I think we might. I think I might have been in the 70s a little bit more with that.
Speaker 2:I'm seeing a massage, I think in the 60s. Again, I feel like we're going to have a lot of folks correcting us in the time for brunch Facebook community page on this. So we welcome it, we're OK because we know that you still love us. You just want to correct us on it. But I'm thinking 60s as well. So I love the 60s because, and I'm going to tell you, my first experience in the 60s, or marketing, marketing back to the 60s type thing, was when I went to hate Ashbury in San Francisco and seeing some of maybe the leftover paraphernalia. Take with that we will be about that phrase, but seeing some of the storefronts and seeing how, like the hippie and counterculture movement was truly, really embraced. So we're going to say that while there is still some really good, wholesome activities like bullying and cruising and sock hops, there was quite a bit of maybe not quite so wholesome activities going on with, again, as I mentioned, some of that paraphernalia and the psychedelic drugs, a little bit of communal living and a little bit of flower power and tie dyeing.
Speaker 1:As I'm wearing a tie dye dress, which I didn't even intend for today. I do love the 60s. I think the 70s are more my jam, but I feel like I could have lived in the hippie area in the just the peace and love type of aspect and been very, very happy, and I definitely would have rocked the tie dye fashion which is exactly what we're going to chat about a little bit here, as well as those popular sayings and phrases.
Speaker 2:And then we're going to talk about snacks too, because we're not going to forget those. So, of course, like you mentioned, some of the most popular sayings and phrases are at least that we think of when we think back to that timeframe is make love, not war. So I think we're both a little bit of some peace children, and of course that was in opposition to the Vietnam War at that time. So there's a lot that's influenced by, like, the socio political aspects of each decade and what becomes our popular sayings and phrases, and probably also harkens to why the running boom may have started to become more popular because, again, endorphins One of my favorites was turn on to an end and drop out Totally a hippie saying there.
Speaker 1:Oh, really I do. I didn't actually realize this came from the 60s, but if it feels good, do it. I mean, take that with a grain of salt, let's. Let's not get crazy in the 60s or in the 2000s.
Speaker 2:All right, Coach, so if it feels good, do it. We don't have any bail money, but we do have snack money. So let's talk about what kind of snacks we would have had in the 60s.
Speaker 1:I definitely would not have been eating must of this in the 60s.
Speaker 2:It's OK. Oh, what are you talking about? This is delicious.
Speaker 1:And meatballs with grape jelly.
Speaker 2:That's still popular to this day? Ok, you, it's that. It's literally a cut right, this very instant. Well, if I'm cut, you get why I'm everybody.
Speaker 1:I would probably get behind chicken a la king, that was a big, big trend. And fondue, which I do love, some different fondues and cheese fondue, but a lot of fondue restaurants became really popular. I doesn't say, but I'm going to assume that's when it started taking off.
Speaker 2:I hate fondue restaurants.
Speaker 1:Obviously what.
Speaker 2:I hate fondue restaurants. I don't think those somewhere in pay to cook my own food, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Ok, there's our third poll of this episode to fondue or to fondote.
Speaker 2:Fondote, like, seriously, bring that prepared. If I want to cook my own food, I'll do it at home, but anyway, yes, you were starting to speak about the late, great, wonderful Julia Childs, I believe.
Speaker 1:Yes, she gained a lot of popularity before Gignon, which I have not ever made, always been enticed to, but also shrimp cocktail, pigs in a blanket some of the best little appetizers that we still use today and limped in onion soup mix. Talk about some packaging. That was definitely coming into play and recipes were specifically calling for it by brand name. So maybe again you're looking at this and thinking I'm going to break out my fondue and make some.
Speaker 2:some fondue, some chicken I like hanging, and maybe some meatballs with grape jelly With that said, friends, we're going to go ahead and start rapping at this episode, but leave it with the infamous words of Julia Childs that the only real stumbling buck is a fear of failure in cooking. You've got to have a what the hell attitude. So, friends, if you're still in the fence about getting laced up and tackling those big, audacious goals, get out there, of course. Have that what the hell attitude and enjoy your best life.
Speaker 1:And slap some butter on it while you're at it.
Speaker 2:I mean that makes everything better. That was actually one of her real quotes, too, for a blog. So, friends, we're so excited that you joined us for this quick fight. Well, we run through the decades. We can't wait to have you joining. As we continue to make our way through, we get into Coach Shelby's favorite era right around the corner with Next Wednesday. We would love for you to, of course, join us for our long brunch, which drops on Friday, or keep coming back for, like I said, those midweek quick bites, because, regardless of when or where, we're going to keep story up more miles with some groovy smiles.
